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Organized by: Yannis
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GroovyCompo
#7 Results
Placing Filename Author 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th Last Total
1st pro-abys.it Protocol 5 4 3 1 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 125
2nd tan-pull.xm Tangerine 5 2 2 4 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 124
3rd ybgc07.it YanniS 2 6 3 2 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 120
4th chicken.xm FireNadz 1 2 1 0 2 1 2 2 1 1 0 70
5th smeg-gc7.it smeg 1 0 2 1 2 0 4 0 3 0 1 67
6th easygo.it Tompa do Pompa 2 0 2 2 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 64
7th tf-pbk.xm da fear 0 1 1 0 4 2 3 0 0 0 0 63
8th way-hamm.it Wayfinder 0 0 0 2 1 1 1 5 0 0 0 44
9th way-&-ge.it Wayfinder 0 1 1 0 0 2 1 2 1 2 0 41
& Genosha
10th nothing.it distance 0 1 0 0 1 3 1 1 1 1 0 40
11th boh-ng.xm axl 1 0 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 31
12th amu-myta.xm aMUSiC 0 0 0 0 1 0 2 0 2 1 0 19
13th ssml-ptm.it Shadow Star 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 11
& Moon_Lion
14th bart-p98.it Bart 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 1 0 5
(14) dkmarbox.xm Decker 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 2 0 5
15th planer.it Ondine 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 5 3
16th touch.it BRaiNRioT! 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 8 2 <LAST>
Disqualified For Not Voting (or incorrect voteform)
4th winter.it Ballistique 0 0 2 3 1 5 1 2 0 1 0 79 - No VoteForm
13th ge-demo.it Genosha 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 2 1 0 21 - No VoteForm
20th entry.it Rbd-Lepus 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 - No VoteForm
Comments
Comments On First Place:
EASYGO.IT:
- was the clear choice for first for me and
Ybgc07 was close behind. Tan-pull was a bit harder to
choose for third. Overall, I thought that this compo was
a bit worse in quality than the previous groovycompos. I
don't know if it's because of a general lack of
inspiration, a hard-to-use samplepack, or just a bad mood
of mine. Even my song sucks more than usual :)
- got it 1st for many reasons...mainly tho
because it started off with a great beat, skipping the
sometimes annoying intro. It got right to the point and
also did not use repetition in a bad way. The tune itself
sounded very familiar to a song I know, but I'll let it
pass this time. The instruments were nicely used
together, giving the song more meaning...great piece of
work. :)
TAN-PULL.XM:
- Groovy beat.. the funy drums were pretty
neatly used. Nice piano background. I think that
Tangerine has a nice sound in his tune, and an uplifting
groove. Very well constructed, with musical variety.. and
since I like jazzy/funky tunes..
- Well I guess this song managed to pull
something out of the air all right and produced something
that didnt sound awful like the rest of them. It had good
rythm and the tune flowed nicely and was technically
adequate.. The piano chords were a bit grinding but that
was the samples fault really. I dont think this weeks
song pack sounds so bad because the people cant track, i
just think the sample pack ruined any chance of people
writing something half decent.. I think this was the
worst sample pack out of all the gc's.
- Um. Groovy song, for aptly titled
"groovy" compo. Ok, the compo isn't very
groovy. Some might say the name means more than the song
:) But I cease and desist. Tangerine's song was mucho
nifty. It was a choice between Protocol and Tangerine and
I went with Tang because it had more of a happy feel to
it. Sorry, but depressing music, well.....depresses me. I
want happy boom boom dance type get up and groove music.
Tang's was more like that. Once again, I don't have much
to say on the technical side. It's a feel good type
o'song and I LIKED IT heahaeheahe.
- There was a very hard decision to make..
should i vote Tangerine's or Protocol's tune first.I
decided to choose Tangerine's for two reasons.. first, i
liked the melody and the piano part very very much, and
second, i think Protocol looked a bit too closely at Nine
One One, the MC5 winner ;). He should at least have
credited WAVE ;) But anyway, the tune is great.
- It was more difficult to pick just one
first-place entry because the quality of the top songs is
improving. This time around it will have to be
Tangerine's "Pulled From Air". A funky,
light-hearted feel fits the title perfectly. The grinding
organ sound was also an interesting feature. I hoped for
some more complex piano work, but the effort was
sufficient. And, Yannis, it's good to have you back in
the music packs. :P "Fractured Light" showed
attention to the leads, as well as a refreshing key
change. About halfway through, though, the song becomes
to "busy" with the voice pop sample somewhat
getting in the way of the leads instead of complimenting.
That, and the song just seemed to short. I mean, you just
get into the groove and then it just all disappears like
a dying flashlight. Advice: get some Energizer batts.
Also worth a mention are TF_PBK.XM and WINTER.IT. Both
with good momentum and style, but just not up to par with
the other two. FireLight? What happened? You had the
makings of a phat groove but just as it gets interesting,
CHICKEN.XM just bows out and leaves us all hanging...
PRO-ABYS.IT:
- This song (pro-abys.it) has a really nice
feel to it, and stands out from the rest of the songs in
this pack because it's got alot of memorable phrases and
just 'sucks' you in. very nice work from a musician i
have a great deal of respect for. another song worth
mentioning is nothing.it, which i find strangely
appealing ;)
- I feel that Abyss by Protocol is worthy of
first place due to several reasons... The first reason
being creative use of the samples and/or the way that
they had been modified... Secondly, the tune had a
beginning, a middle and an end, unlike many of the other
entries. The third reason, is that there was a definite
artistic theme to the song, and the titling was
appropriate, and it _ACTUALLY_ left the impression of an
Abyss.. Finally, the song is definitly not to be thrown
into an Abyss.. but rather, I feel it has the quality of
an actual release in it's current form.
- "Abyss" by Protocol is a very
nice song at all. It has good melody, well done
arrangement and hip-hop drums (my favorite ;) with good
use of crash cymbal sample. The whole song structure is
good and doesn't leave a feeling of unfinished work. Very
high level of tracking technique.
- Abyss was a very skilfull tune. The
melodies were candy to my ears and the tune progressed
onwards very fluently. The samples were chosen well and
they sounded great together. The end could be better
without it's boring volume slide, but the tune was good
enough to win.
BOH-NG.XM:
- I'm putting my money on BOH-NG.XM. I like
this song a lot, it has agood balance between passion and
aggression (a little heavy on the agression in some
parts, I'd watch that buzz!), a good breakbeat-sounding
beat, and a certain degree of minamalism which i always
find tasty.
CHICKEN.XM:
- firelight once again proves his tracking
worth with a really groovy plopbangfest. a thick, rich
progression layered midway with that arpeggio'd chippie
make for a really cool original tune. although at first
listen this tune sounds a LOT like Wave's work, it has
its own unique feel. the only problem with this song was
that it was too damned short. somebody hire this guy!
SMEG-GC7.IT:
- interesting and different trancey
ambience. good usage of the given samples. i'm sorry i'm
not much of an expert in describing and commenting songs.
YBGC07.IT:
- This was the best tune in the compo this
time (in a pretty average pack). It's not a masterpiece
but it flows fell and makes my pretty happy. :) The
melodies are cute and I noticed several nice
"fill-in" melodies that kinda sneaked in and
raised the enjoyment. Although the tune was good I felt
like it never really started, it just kept going? I was
waiting for an explosion with heavy percussions, stronger
arrangement etc but it never came. Still, it's a worthy
winner imho!
- A very well done song with a good
lead-progression that stands out through out the whole
tune. It's very original too. Respect!
Comments On Last Place:
BOH-NG.XM:
- This was hard to choose... Too many to
compete for last place
PLANER.IT:
- got last for me because...well...sorry, I
just failed to see the point. Sounds like something I was
writting when I was 12...if you're 12...very sorry then.
:)
- Sounds like my 2nd tune (1992) ever. The
percussions are weak and annoying, mainly the claps.
There's melody (is there?) but I don't see how it belongs
there. It just sucks. :) And the most irritating thing is
that the bassline is almost an exact copy of the melody,
hehe. Where are the chords? Did you forget to do them or
something? :) If this was supposed to be a techno/ house
tune you failed. If it was supposed to be something else
you failed anyway. One positive thing: You can dance to
it, if you can avoid to slip on your puke!
- A song looks like a 15 minutes work: no
effects, even no volumes. Seems like turning off
different channels while the only one pattern is playing.
The author says wrong about a song. I have decided that
if hamsters dig it then my home rat should do it too, but
it has paid no attention to music. Maybe rat is wrong? ;)
SMEG_GC7.IT:
- I ranked this last for technical reasons.
It *is* a decent song, but due to channel doubling, unuse
of NNA's, etc, this song gobbles up what sounds like
about 3 or 4 times the channels it should (50!).Granted,
my machine is not exactly bleeding edge, but it's no
slouch, either, (P100 with a SB 64), and it was choking
pretty harsh in a few parts. (Incidentally, this may be
due to me having something screwed up on my end. anyone
have any hints on making IT behave like a good lil'
monkey?)
TOUCH.IT:
- Are you thinking someone out there likes
this (music)? I know you think you are being experimental
or somthing but it really just comes out sounding like a
big norwegian woman's fart after she ate 10 pounds of
curry.
- weak, uninspired, uncatchy, ungrooving,
unmusical, dissonant, annoying - the vocal sample, 'i
shall be merciful' adds that jackhammer subtlety which
marks this tune with that ironic touch of death. but
don't give up tracking; keep practicing! this tune
reminds me of the first stuff i made back in '94.
- This was in no way a horrible song. As
songs go, some are unlistenable, and some you can listen
to but just think "something's lacking." This
is just a something's lacking song. I listened to it a
couple of times. It sort of grew on me. I began to like
parts of it. It just needs *something* I don't know what.
Good points: I like that sample you used. It's strangely
ironic, used in this song ;) The beginning is good....Bad
points: It needs a melody (I like melody. The basic part
of music IMHO) Work on this song. It has potential to be
mucho better than it is at the moment. (Like *I* haven't
heard that enough myself)
- Comments? does that include sarcasm? I
hope so... Because.. I don't wanna touch the damn thing.
The vocal doesn't even fit.. the "song" was
anything but "Merciful and Quick".. (I
_*DON'T*_ think so!) However, the introduction to the
"song" was quite nice.. too bad it didn't last.
The "tune" (?) reminds me of a cheesy demo song
off of an old child-sized keyboard.. an evil, badly done
drum-n-bass thingy... For some odd reason, the file..
(yes, more appropriate name..) reminds me of when I've
eaten a little too much spicy food. Whatever
"Touch" the author had has definitely been long
gone... Feh, it still would have been nice to have some
sort of melody or even an attempt at one to this file..
- There's absolutely no progression and the
melody is not coherent. Still, not the worst tune in the
pack.
- the fact that you spent two days on this
says it all i think..
- The good news is that the worst
entries are actually much better than previous GCs. That
makes me very happy; we're all learning from this. (I
hope that one day that "worst" song will kick
serious butt in the general Scene.) The bad news is that
they still are somewhat painful to listen to, and I need
to pick a victim. Heh heh... So, touch.it earned a
last in this GC because it exhibits the most of the
following---shall we say---"problems". - >
SEE SPECIAL COMMENTS BELOW
General Comments:
- As soon as YBGC07.IT started playing...I
thought....ARGH!!!! That damn Mentos add!!! Dunno
why...but I soon got over it...nice little piece. Not
no.1 but in the top ten for sure.
- On a general note, I'd just like to say a
few words...the first being ...I DON'T CARE HOW MANY
FRIGGEN HOURS YOU SPENT WRITING THE MODULE OR WHETHER OR
NOT YOU GOT THE SAMPLE PACK IN TIME!!! Tuff luck if
something went wrong...could people please stop going on
about how they wrote the song 5 minutes before submittion
time and that they'll never make it into the placings.
Ain't happy? Don't enter! Thank you. :)
- hey, i have one question - are your
(Yannis', in case this goes to someone else) songs
elligible for voting? I thought I read something on the
page about you dq'ing yourself, but I can't remember and
my web-browser is being a pain in the ass. If so, toss it
in there at about 7th and bump the rest down.
-> Why disqualify? I've done everything
right, and I do the sample packs last minute so I have no
Idea what's in them either, and don't start tracking till
mid-week?? 7th? .. urgh. now you tell me.. (can't be
bothered changing everything)
Special Comments:
Directed to Author of TOUCH.IT:
- Repetition: Make a pattern with a
drum track on it. Copy it and add a bassline. Then copy
that 4 more times adding other stuff to it and sequence
it like: 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,3,3,4,5, (repeat). Okay,
sometimes this sounds cool like in trace or ambient
music, because you get an overall effect with repetition.
- Tuning: Nothing ruins a
good/potentially good song like bad tuning. Detuning
the instruments can produce interesting effects like
honkey-tonk pianos, wind chimes, and pan flutes.
Off-pitch variations in instruments like those are common
and its part of their nature. Detuning your bass or your
leads, however, is another story. ARGH! The best way to
tune things is to pick one instrument in the pack (or
temporarily load one of your own) that has a clear, solid
tone and play it at very high frequencies. Then tune all
of the other instruments in the pack to that freq.
- Volume Balancing: If you got a
stereo with a spectrum analyzer, play back your song and
watch it. (ModPlug has a built-in analyzer that you can
use.) The most natural sounding music generally
has a convex curve shape:
== == max vol
== == == ==
== == == == == == ==
== == == == == == == ==
== == == == == == == == min vol
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Lo freq Hi freq
You can get this by keeping the
mid-range instruments' volumes down a little---e.g. don't
go beyond 60% volume. This lets you put in your leads at
higher volumes without having them getting lost in the
mud of background tones. Heavy bass usually helps because
not everyone has a subwoofer and bass doesn't propagate
as well sometimes. All of this is not a hard-and-fast
rule, but things usually sound better this way. For
techno music, heavy bass drums are in order.
- Decay: Many instruments sound
better when you apply a little decay. Instead of having
the sample just play and stop like:
X XX X XXXXXX X
XXX XXXX X XXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXX XXX XXXX XXX
XX XXX XX XXX X
(sample)
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(envelope)
Add a little extra bit to it.
X XX X XXXXXX X
XXX XXXX X XXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX X
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXxxx
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXX XXX XXXX XXX
XX XXX XX XXX X
(sample)
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(envelope)
Most sounds tend to bounce around the
room a for a few tenths of a second.
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